First, Christ never said any such thing, least wise in the condescending way it is all too frequently employed by Professional Faith Merchants, the 20th Century Antichrist. The Catholic Father, St. Augustine said "Cum dilectione hominum et odio vitiorum" which means "With love for mankind and hatred of sins."  This was in St. Augustine's Letter 211 found in J.-P. Migne (ed.) _Patrologiae Latinae_ (1845), vol. 33.  According to the Dictionary, this is "often quoted by Professional Faith Merchants as 'Love the sinner but hate the sin' ".

Secondly, There are two parts to this issue. Part 1, assuming a person can love a left handed person and still, intellectually and reasonably hate the fact that the person is left-handed and Part 2, Isaiah and Christ prophesied that man would try to redefine and label something a sin for his own aggrandizement.

PART 1: How is it possible to love a left-handed person or a blond hair, blue eyed person and not love what makes them person different or unique? Can a mother or father say to the child, "I love you but I hate and despise what makes you, you?"

The argument has been stated that, a mother loves her son but when he kills someone, she can still love her child but hates what he or she has done.

I submit that is totally and unequivocally false! The mother loves the memory of here child but no longer respects him or her and can't really love her child she no longer respects. True, she still has feelings for the child she remembers and loves the child's memory. She wants to restore her child to favor, but she has an lost respect for and has a profound emptiness of love for that child. The mother longs for the love she remembers fondly. One must respect a person before they can love that person. In the case of the mother and murderous child, a person can not respect someone and still feel outrage and disgust for what he or she had done.

Although the bond between parent and child, e.g. the love between parent and child is extremely strong, the parent must respect the child before the parent can truly love the child and his/her decisions.

The Bible says, God is no respecter of persons, which is to say, God doesn't care who you are, he is and will be consistant. If you do the crime, you must do the time! The Bible also says, God has unconditional love for all His children. Why, because although He is greatly disappointed because of the actions of one of His children, that child may not be able to live with Him in heaven. However, in the end, that individual will never die and He’ll still be able to see that child.

God the Father loves all His children and has unconditional empathy for man's situation. That goes to the very heart of any and all sins or crimes against God. God is perfect, he knows everything and has empathy for man because He knows we came to earth, mentally blind as to our former existence. He knows we started out with a blank slate and because we don't know everything and in most cases, comparatively, man doesn't know anything, man has to live by faith in God and trust in his fellowman.

Literally speaking, man can not kill a spirit. There is nothing we can do to alter the fact that one day, we'll all return home -- "saved by grace" in words of one -- and live with or nearer God with a more perfect knowledge. There is only one crime against God for which man will essentially be banished from the presence of God, or cast into hell with Satan. Although referrinbg to him as such, it is debatable whether or not Judas Iscariot had sufficient knowledge of the Holy Ghost before betraying Christ to have qualified as a Son of Perdition but that's between him and God and basically, has nothing to do with me. I’m responsible only for what I do and not what you or anyone else does! However, essentially, all mankind will return, in some measure, to the presence of the Father, albeit, not to the same glory or mansion in our Father’s house. Each of us will live in our own hell realizing that we would have had far more with a little more effort.

Does God not hate the deed but still love the murderer?

Yes, I don't doubt that he does but that shows real importance of this life in the Eternal Plan of God. To God, we'll always be alive, throughout eternity and we will never die but to mortal man, he has a life span of a few short years. If someone we love is killed, we feel miserable and empty. Without a knowledge of "life after death," we feel we are deprived of that person forever more. Hence, we are taught and conditioned to cherish life. After all, it is our only change at life and to secure a better place through out eternity. This is part of God's Plan for Man.

 To us, it means how we'll spend eternity, in management in the board room, as a lowly clerk, a grunt or in the warehouse doing manual labor for eternity. However, to God, for better or worse, He'll welcome us home, lock, stock and barrel. Then come the Judgment or if you will "Graduation Day." Some will graduate Valedictorian and some, Salutatorian while still others, will not graduate. Very few will all but fail and almost no one will fail. Literally speaking, there is nothing we can do to kill a spirit. We'll all go back to live with God, but in a jail cell, an apartment, a condo or in a big beautiful home on miles and miles of a big, beautiful, lush green plantation or beach front property but it'll be of our own creation. God is also perfect and while God wants man to work towards perfection, He's wise enough to know that man is not nor can he be expected to be perfect like God. Man must live and be tested with imperfect knowledge! This life is for man to be tried and tested and reach for perfection.

One can not love someone without first respecting that person! If a person doesn't respect someone else, it is a demonic lie sound bite and obfuscation of the truth to say he or she loves the person he or she doesn’t respect.

The pernicious Radial Religionists and Professional Faith Merchants love to say, "I love the sinner but not the sin." It is easy to call something we disagree with a sin and if one looks long and hard enough, the person will undoubtedly not only find something he or she disagrees with and also someone who agrees with him or her. However, man is basically GIVEN ONLY TWO, count them, (2) COMMANDMENTS and said, all prophets and laws are based on these two commandments. If something is not based on one of these two commandments, it is a commandment of man and Satan not God.

Matthew 22:35-40

35 Then one of them, [which was] a lawyer, asked [him a question], tempting him, and saying,

36 Master, which [is] the great commandment in the law?

37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.

38 This is the first and great commandment.

39 And the second [is] like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour (sic) as thyself.

40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

Christ said,

By their fruits ye shall know them.

Christ did not say,

By their words ye shall know them, but by their deeds ye shall know them. DEED PRODUCE FRUIT, WORDS DO NOT! Actions do speak louder than words!
 
 

PART 2: Man's defining something a sin, does not make it a sin!

Christ had every opportunity but said absolutely nothing at all about homosexuality. Quite the contrary, Isaiah prophesied,

Isaiah 29:14

13 Wherefore the Lord said, Forasmuch as this people draw near [me] with their mouth, and with their lips do honour (sic) me, but have removed their heart far from me, and their fear toward me is taught by the precept of men:

Christ said quoting Isaiah, "

Matthew 15:7-9

 7 [Ye] hypocrites, well did Esaias prophesy of you, saying,

   8 This people draweth (sic) nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth (sic) me with [their] lips; but their heart is far from me.

  9 But in vain they do worship me, teaching [for] doctrines the commandments of men.
 

Granted, under the Mosaic Law, the Israeli people couldn't sneeze but what it was a sin! When Moses went up to the Mount the second time, he pleaded with God for 40 days and 40 nights to give the Israeli people a heavy taskmaster, a burdensome yoke of bondage comparable to what they knew in Egypt  which would prepare  the flighty, wishy washy, effeminate -- the 1st century definition -- minded Israeli people to recognize, appreciate and comprehend the freer, more Godly Gospel of Jesus Christ.

Moses asked for 7 x 70 or 490 commandments but God have him and the Israelites only. Moses was hurt and bent out of shape. He issued 613 Laws and called it the Law of Moses. It was not called the Law of God nor the Law of Jehovah because is was it was the creation of Moses not God. God prevented Moses from taking his anger out on the Israelites.

The Israelites didn't have to have a contrite heart, repent by endeavoring never to do it again and pray for forgiveness, which is God's way of teaching his children to be better people. No! The ancient Israeli people had to sacrifice goats and sheep, which was their main source of food, their sustenance and turtle doves which were rare. The Israeli people had to pay a price for their transgression against Moses’ Law, the Israelites didn't have to have a contrite heart, they had to feel the actual pangs of being punished. Moses felt they had to be trained and they had to be taught with a stern hand or as they had proven at the foot of Mt. Sinai, they would quickly turn against God.

To a large extent, the Muslims are in the same boat as the ancient Israelis. Muhammad knew this and fashioned Islam after the Law of Moses. It was to teach the Arabs, the sons and daughters of Ishmael, about the true God and  to worship God verses a pagan idol. Islam could have been called the Law of Muhammad!

Long before the advent of Christ, in accordance with his promise to Moses in trying to teach, to train and to mold the Israeli people, Jehovah said through Samuel the prophet,

1 Samuel 15:22

  22 And Samuel said, Hath the LORD [as great] delight in burnt offerings and sacrifices, as in obeying the voice of the LORD? Behold, to obey [is] better than sacrifice, [and] to hearken than the fat of rams.

But for those who have accepted the Gospel of Jesus Christ, he or she must keep in mind what God has defined as a sin (see <u>What is Sin?<u> in these Journals of Discourses, )
 

Matthew 22:36-40

  36 Master, which [is] the great commandment in the law?

   37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.

 38 This is the first and great commandment.

 39 And the second [is] like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour (sic) as thyself.

 40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

Read Verse 40 again. “ON THESE TWO COMMANDMENTS HAND ALL THE LAWS AND THE PROPHETS,” which is to say that ALL THE LAWS and ALL THE PROPHETS" since the beginning of time were given to man for the expressed purpose of teaching and getting man to adhere to these two commandments only! All other verbiage is simply commentary, some of which are the nothing more than commandments of men he teaches for doctrines of God for some of Satan’s gold!
 

 That's right,TRUE Christians have basically ONLY TWO commandments to adhere to but from these two commandments, man can be guilty of a myriad of sins or crimes against God! Homosexuality is not and never was one of those sins, not even under the Law of Moses. If the world adhered to only these two commandments instead of the myriad of others that man's Professional Faith Merchants and Radical Religionists have devised to gain control over the hearts and minds of his fellowman, separating the fool from his money, there would be no crime, no poverty, no famine, no hatred or war. Love would abound everywhere and man would be working hard to eradicate all sickness and disease. Man's economies would not be based on exploitation of the masses but on the eradication of any disease, impairment or malady.
 
 

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